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New Partners - Pt 3
Posted on Tue Sep 30th 2008 at 11:00pm

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Posted by RyanMC on Tue Sep 30th 2008 at 9:22pm
With Eggman, Dr. Wily knew that he would eventually either have to share power or (more realistically)double cross Eggman. Nega on the other hand, stands to benefit from Dr. Wily's conquest of the earth. This is the kind or partnership an evil scientist can usually only dream of.

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Posted by ASG. on Tue Sep 30th 2008 at 11:04pm
He only Benifits if he's still alive to benifit at the end of it. We don't know if Eggman has er, done the nasty, so to speak. The very, very nasty. and if Eggman is killed before he can pass on his genes, Nega goes bye bye.

Posted by Linko_16 on Tue Sep 30th 2008 at 11:05pm
So I assume he's got the whole "destroy ancestor, cease to exist" thing figured out to be considering actually doing it?

Posted by Deruku on Tue Sep 30th 2008 at 11:18pm
He said the destruction of his ancestor. Not the death. So that means that he just wants to make his ancestor fail, not die.

Posted by Dark BlazerX on Tue Sep 30th 2008 at 11:55pm
Where do all these Dr. Robotniks find wives to make all these children?

Posted by Linko_16 on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 12:34am
Deruku: "Destruction" is only a somewhat ambiguous term with a few specific meanings, but not only does saying you want to "destroy" a person imply first and foremost that you want them dead, it's also just the usual theatrical villain vocabulary. How many saturday-morning-cartoon villains have you heard shout "DESTROY THEM!" as they send their minions out? No one is under the impression that they meant "ruin their careers and make them miserable, but under no circumstances should you do them any physical harm!"

So, while I guess Nega COULD be saying he wants to thwart, imprison, torture, or do whatever else to nullify Eggman without killing him, it's not really what's normally implied by the word "destruction."

Posted by Loki Fenrisulf IV on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 1:35am
Destroy could mean kill, ruin or both.
Notice that the death of Eggman doesn't mean the death of Eggman Nega. After all, Quint is from a future that will no longer exist, and Sonic defeated Zero before they met and was still alive.
Chrono Compendium called this Timetraveller Immunity, in wich a being that travels through time becomes immune to changes caused by his travel.
Of course, unlike Weil, who has a legit reason to kill Wily (avoid the "birth" of Zero), Eggman Nega just hates Eggman, meaning "ruin" would be as good or even better of a result for him.
Nothing stops him for going for wathever is easier, though - either killing or ruining, depending on wich one he has more chance of accomplishing.

Posted by ASG. on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 1:38am
Wily and Eggman aren't going to die. They're the stars/title characters.

Posted by kinny-man on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 2:07am
The future scientists are OBVIOUSLY gonna fail, DUUUUH X3

Posted by Angel85 on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 2:09am
I think all of you missed something, while Eggman and Wily were arguing in the cell, Eggman said that he WAS married in the past, it could be the case that he's already had a child, and Eggman Nega won't have to worry about the "grandfather paradox" since it only counts if you kill your grandparents BEFORE they had a chance to conceive your father.
Of course, if you look at Wily's family, they are very firmly good guys. So lets run the scenario here: Wily conquers the earth and becomes the grand emperor, instead of willing the earth to his biological child, Cream, he gives it to the descendants of Dr. Eggman when he dies, then 200 or so years in the future Eggman Nega is emperor of the world by birthright, and he pats himself on the back for thinking to go back 200 years and save Dr. Wily. It truly is win-win for these guys.

Posted by Ultric Sandov on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 6:23am
Ryan, you have created an insane conspiracy. I applaud you.

Posted by Namm_killazilla on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 7:16am
So, this is your theory -

Nega is Eggman's descendant, because Eggman's child was born before Eggman broke off with his wife/cloned before Eggman died.

Eggman is killed, and Wily manages to take over the Earth. Eggman Nega returns to the future.

Wily thanks Eggman Nega for the help and passes it on to Eggman's child in order to make Eggman Nega ruler of the future.

Eggman Nega rules 200 years later, and goes back to thank Wily for passing it onto him, by helping him do it in the first place.

I don't think Cream would mind. She's too peaceful to rule the world the way her father would want to.

Posted by BioTube on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 7:44am
Of course, we don't know how long Wiley would rule before getting ready to hand over the reins, so Cream could be of marriageable age before then(and that would simplify everthing legally while making sure that Eggman Jr doesn't do something like will the empire to who's best suited instead of his own spawn).

Posted by FlareD on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 9:54am
Dr Wily is getting a good deal!

Posted by Romshark (Guest) on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 2:03pm
Actually, I'd like to see Wily put Cream in control.
All Hail Empress Cream!

Posted by Deruku on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 4:57pm
Well, think of it as this. Maybe Nega implies it as kill him, but will Ryan actually kill Eggman? He is one of the stars for the title character. Maybe, like the other person said it's too ambiguous. Maybe the plan is to kill one of the title stars and add a new evil scientist, but I highly doubt that. Just use your knowledge of archetypes, but of course irony trumps all.

Posted by Namm_killazilla on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 5:25pm

I just had a hilarious idea.

What if Cream and Eggman's child (which, for this theory, we are assuming is a male) ended up together, and had a child later on in their lives? It would ensure that Eggman Nega earns the throne, but makes sure that the throne does not leave Wily's family.

"We are gathered here today to join --- Robotnik and Cream Wily the Rabbit in lawfully wedded..."

Man, all this is so complicated, you need a Wiki for this.

Posted by Duh102 on Wed Oct 1st 2008 at 6:15pm
The grandfather paradox assumes that time is linear. If by traveling back in time you find an alternate reality you avoid any sort of restrictions upon your existence. The only way to nullify a time traveler's existence in the current universe would be to kill them at the current time. Going back in time to kill them would just kill them in another universe. (I tend to agree with the Many Worlds interpretation, look it up on Wikipedia)

Posted by Speedy the Hedgehog (Guest) on Mon Aug 9th 2010 at 8:42am
nega is from another dimension

Posted by Reign of Chaos on Sat Aug 14th 2010 at 11:00pm
You haven't played Sonic Rivals, have you, Speedy?

The "dimension" he's from in Rush is actually an alternate future.

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